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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 10/25/2008 8:42:51 PM
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Hayseed
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If you can't get a teacher, then listen to a lot of Jazz. Diana Krall is a good contemporary voice. Billy Holladay, etc.
But, do not rule out a teacher in the future when you are able to make your own decisions. Nothing is better than a person alongside to push you.
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 10/26/2008 8:03:28 PM
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Hi singergirl,
I checked out both of your videos and read through the thread. I have a few things to offer...do with them whatever you wish.
Are you sitting down in these videos? If so, NEVER do that and expect to sing your best. When you sit you don't allow yourself to breathe properly. Therefore you will not sing properly.
Second, your voice is nice but it's not much different nor better than many other 14 year old girls who are doing what you're doing. Granted, it's difficult to really critique you when you're SITTING DOWN and singing into a web cam, but if you've ever watched videos of Leanne Rimes when she was your age (and younger) then you'll get an idea of what REALLY good singing from a young teen is. Seriously, not knocking you but she set a standard that few people can reach. You need to improve your breath control (standing up might help a little) and, eventually, you need to move from karaoke singing to developing your own voice. Anyone who has watched even a season of American Idol knows that the judges despise karaoke singing. Singing like someone else is not too difficult for some. Singing like yourself is very difficult for many.
Third, after reading through some of your posts I get the idea that 1) you seem to display a certain lack of humility at times when you're challenged with an opinion that differs from your own and 2) you might even lack the passion to pursue singing as a career, saying that you could change your mind, etc...and both of these character traits will not suit you well in an industry that, please trust me because I know from experience, will use you up and dispose of you quicker than you even realize.
The music business, regardless if it's singing on Broadway, off Broadway, singing jingles and commercials, or touring and recording with a band, is HARD WORK and is best suited to those who are driven by a somewhat unexplainable inner desire to do whatever it is that they have been equipped to do. Either you want it or you don't. There is no middle ground, imho.
Regarding a teacher...all I can say is that I'm a professional guitarist and I've had teachers, my wife is a professional singer and she's had teachers, her sister was a professional opera singer and she's had teachers, her other sister is a professional pianist and she's had teachers, my father-in-law was a professional pianist and he had teachers and just about every serious professional musician and singer I know has had, at one time or another, a teacher to help guide them and offer real constructive criticism and valuable feedback to help encourage them to be better than who they are.
I challenge you to find me an olympic gymnast or any other world-class athlete who has not had a trainer.
If you want to be a professional singer, you are going to have to work with a vocal coach or vocal instructor at some point.
I encourage you to keep singing if it's in your heart...you do have a nice voice and it can only improve if you keep working at it...and be open to the advice of others, even if you disagree with it now. I'd bet money that in the future you will look back on some of that advice and wish that you'd exercised a bit more wisdom in receiving it. Not to worry, though; with age comes wisdom...or so they say.
And stand up. 
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/7/2008 9:09:12 AM
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Dude first of all, you have no right to tell me that singing is not my passion. It is and i would appreciate it if people would mind their own bussiness cause they don't know me , and how I feel. Singing is my life I would truly be lost if I didn't have it. My Music makes up a big part of my life, it's not only something I feel i'm good at and enjoy, but it's a way of expressing my feelings. When i'm sad, angery, depressed, happy whatever I just pick up my guitar and sing and write a song. As I do that it feels as if everything in the world just disappers, and nothing in the world matters because I have my music and thats all I need. I've been through some hard times in my life. times where i just wanted to cut myself, but i didn't because through the help of Jesus and my music I made it through.
Finally I would like to say I am not ruling out a teacher/coach, I want one but as i've said before we don't have the money, and i'm 14 so i can't work. But when I enter the age to where I can work i'm definetly going to save my money to get one.
Please everyone i'm sorry, please forgive me. I do appreciate all of your comments, and help. A lot of you have given me advice that is very helpful and i will use in the future. And i know what in my ealier messages i was mean and reluctant to accpet the facts, but i've done some maturing and growning up in the past month. I've also been praying to God daily about what I should do. And I believe that my singing/music is something that I shouldn't give up on and keep pursing!
Also i'm following gtrdave advice and i'm STANDING UP!! i'm standing up to the people who try who have tried to hurt me, i'm standing up to the people who i've put me down the most in my life, and most imporantly i'm standing up to MYSELF!
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/7/2008 12:15:00 PM
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Dude first of all, you have no right to tell me that singing is not my passion. It is and i would appreciate it if people would mind their own bussiness cause they don't know me , and how I feel. Singing is my life I would truly be lost if I didn't have it. My Music makes up a big part of my life, it's not only something I feel i'm good at and enjoy, but it's a way of expressing my feelings. When i'm sad, angery, depressed, happy whatever I just pick up my guitar and sing and write a song. As I do that it feels as if everything in the world just disappers, and nothing in the world matters because I have my music and thats all I need. I've been through some hard times in my life. times where i just wanted to cut myself, but i didn't because through the help of Jesus and my music I made it through.
Finally I would like to say I am not ruling out a teacher/coach, I want one but as i've said before we don't have the money, and i'm 14 so i can't work. But when I enter the age to where I can work i'm definetly going to save my money to get one.
Please everyone i'm sorry, please forgive me. I do appreciate all of your comments, and help. A lot of you have given me advice that is very helpful and i will use in the future. And i know what in my ealier messages i was mean and reluctant to accpet the facts, but i've done some maturing and growning up in the past month. I've also been praying to God daily about what I should do. And I believe that my singing/music is something that I shouldn't give up on and keep pursing!
Also i'm following gtrdave advice and i'm STANDING UP!! i'm standing up to the people who try who have tried to hurt me, i'm standing up to the people who i've put me down the most in my life, and most imporantly i'm standing up to MYSELF!
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Wow! So once again, you ask for advise, get some, and then tell the person granting your request to mind their own business? This is your version of growing up? All I can say is you've got the diva attutude down perfectly. That is what we need in entertainment, after all.
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/7/2008 12:31:10 PM
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Dude first of all, you have no right to tell me that singing is not my passion. It is and i would appreciate it if people would mind their own bussiness cause they don't know me , and how I feel.
Well then, you need to do a better job of expressing yourself.
The following are YOUR words:
" i have a long time to think about my future. plus in 4 years what if i don't even wanna do music! "
To me, that's not passion.
Regardless, I wish you well in your future endeavors.
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/7/2008 1:20:57 PM
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Hmm, this is interesting.
I'm not sure I'd say that a teacher is a permanent requirement, but there is stuff about voice control, vocal chord hygiene, warming up, warming down, etc etc which are vital for anyone who sings often to know, otherwise you're heading for laryngeal muscular strain, chord dysfunction, and worst case, nodules.
So many singers damage their voice because no-one's taught them these things.
Plus, do you know all that stuff about head voice, chest voice, resonance points, moving your voice around, diaphragm control, throat control, volume control, different tones...there's so much.
And it does make you a better singer.
Plus it probably adds a tone or two to your range at least!
All the pro's have lessons, if not before they get into the business then certainly after. They have to, or their career's fall apart when they lose the voice.
Even heavy rock singers have lessons on how to scream and stuff like that, to avoid damage. Those that don't, get damage.
My daughter is 10. She's been singing since she could talk. And she's had singing lessons for over 2 years. Made a big difference.
Ann Wilson, look out!
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/7/2008 1:45:19 PM
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I'm not sure I'd say that a teacher is a permanent requirement, but there is stuff about voice control, vocal chord hygiene, warming up, warming down, etc etc which are vital for anyone who sings often to know, otherwise you're heading for laryngeal muscular strain, chord dysfunction, and worst case, nodules.
So many singers damage their voice because no-one's taught them these things.
I definitely agree. Even a handful of lessons can teach you things that go beyond how great you may sound. I've been singing since I was a little girl. I've sung in various small groups, sing at weddings, and am hired for large community events. I took voice lessons for about 6 months, and in that short time, learned so much about protecting my voice, when to push myself, when not to, warning signs of vocal fatigue, warm-ups, control, tongue placement for various tonal quality, etc. Things than I never could have taught myself, even though I knew how to sing and was always considered "good". To say I knew as much about vocal training as someone who has a professional degree would have been arrogant. Yes, I knew what I was capable of and how to sing to sound good, but those few vocal lessons gave a whole new depth to my abilities, confidence, and technique. It's been many years since I had my training, and I still fall back on it.
If you can, when you can, I would invest in a good 6 months at least of lessons at some point while your voice is still developing. You'll be surprised at how much it improves your overall performance. If you are planning on competing vocally in any way, it may give you the edge you need.
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/7/2008 2:18:52 PM
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I'm not sure I'd say that a teacher is a permanent requirement, but there is stuff about voice control, vocal chord hygiene, warming up, warming down, etc etc which are vital for anyone who sings often to know, otherwise you're heading for laryngeal muscular strain, chord dysfunction, and worst case, nodules.
So many singers damage their voice because no-one's taught them these things.
I definitely agree. Even a handful of lessons can teach you things that go beyond how great you may sound. I've been singing since I was a little girl. I've sung in various small groups, sing at weddings, and am hired for large community events. I took voice lessons for about 6 months, and in that short time, learned so much about protecting my voice, when to push myself, when not to, warning signs of vocal fatigue, warm-ups, control, tongue placement for various tonal quality, etc. Things than I never could have taught myself, even though I knew how to sing and was always considered "good". To say I knew as much about vocal training as someone who has a professional degree would have been arrogant. Yes, I knew what I was capable of and how to sing to sound good, but those few vocal lessons gave a whole new depth to my abilities, confidence, and technique. It's been many years since I had my training, and I still fall back on it.
If you can, when you can, I would invest in a good 6 months at least of lessons at some point while your voice is still developing. You'll be surprised at how much it improves your overall performance. If you are planning on competing vocally in any way, it may give you the edge you need.
And the younger this can occur, within reason, the better and the less likely that bad, hard-to-break singing habits will be developed.
I've seen so many good young singers totally destroy their voice in just a couple years all because they did not seek out anyone whom was equipped to help them develop their natural skill in a way that it would serve them a lifetime.
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/7/2008 2:51:33 PM
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Plus it probably adds a tone or two to your range at least!
I'd go a lot farther than that - I notice a lot of similarities between this girl's natural breathing and my own (neither are good) and with a couple semesters of voice lessons and minimal practice, my range expanded by almost an octave.
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/7/2008 2:58:20 PM
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Honestly? You sound like any other 14 year old who can carry a tune. There are half a dozen just like you in my church. If you don't want to take the advice of these professional and semi-professional musicians, then how 'bout some from a non-musician? Hit your books, do well in high school, go to college, and get a decent paying job. Because with your attitude you aren't going anywhere in the music business.
That's as honest an opinion as you're likely to get. Take it however you want.
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/7/2008 6:59:37 PM
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Right, had a proper listen to those clips, and whilst there is a noticeable improvement in the second one, it still sounds like you're not relaxing your larynx properly, and I suspect (although it's hard from a vid) that a lot of your vibrato is coming from your throat, not your diaphragm.
Also, when you went for a really high note in the first vid, there was a major drop in tone and control, whereas the Norah Jones song is clearly more in your range, so it was far more relaxed.
And at times it sounded like you were pushing fairly hard, and closing your throat to get higher notes and raise the volume, whereas all that should be coming from the diaphragm and the throat should be relaxed all the time.
So basically you've got a nice tone to your voice, but it does need work to improve from "nice".
The good thing is, you're in tune, which is a major downfall for many singers.
Getting rid of the braces will obviously help too eventually.
NB: This comes from someone who's sung in bands for years, and is now seeing a speech + language singing specialist due to laryngeal muscle problems, despite singing lessons.
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/7/2008 7:22:40 PM
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Dude first of all, you have no right to tell me that singing is not my passion. It is and i would appreciate it if people would mind their own bussiness cause they don't know me , and how I feel.
Well then, you need to do a better job of expressing yourself.
The following are YOUR words:
" i have a long time to think about my future. plus in 4 years what if i don't even wanna do music! "
To me, that's not passion.
Regardless, I wish you well in your future endeavors.
Like i've said before, i've been praying about it, and talking to some of my family, friends and chorus teachers and i've realized that theres nothing in the world i would rather do than music. It's everything I live for. A lot has happened to me over the past month that has made me wake up and realize what it means to me. yes at the time i might not have been as enthused with it, but now i most certainly am.
Oh and Thank you soooo much for your advice drnick. I also went back and watched my videos and noticed the same things as you did. those are some areas where i'm going to keep working at, and developing.
And yes MusicianDad i have matured. Seriously if someone told you that the thing that matters to you the most, the love of your life, your everything, wasn't you passion wouldn't you be just a little ticked?? think about it. take this for example. i don't know if you do or not but what if you played the guitar. It was something you loved, absolutely cared about, couldn't go a day without putting your hands on it. and one day I told you that it wasn't your passion and you should just give up. You would be hurt and devastated. And really it wouldn't be my place to tell you that, because it would be your personal passion and not mine. I don't know how you feel or think.
Finally yes drnick i know about head voice, Chest voice, diaphragm control ect...
it's not like i haven't had ANY training. I've been singing since i was 4, taking part in school choirs and all state honors choirs since 3rd grade. and i'm in my 2nd year of Fine Arts Singing.
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/7/2008 7:45:51 PM
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And yes MusicianDad i have matured. Seriously if someone told you that the thing that matters to you the most, the love of your life, your everything, wasn't you passion wouldn't you be just a little ticked?? think about it. take this for example. i don't know if you do or not but what if you played the guitar. It was something you loved, absolutely cared about, couldn't go a day without putting your hands on it. and one day I told you that it wasn't your passion and you should just give up. You would be hurt and devastated. And really it wouldn't be my place to tell you that, because it would be your personal passion and not mine. I don't know how you feel or think.
Seriously, if I came on the internet and asked for "honest feedback" on the thing that matters to me most, I'd show a little maturity when I got feedback by being gracious instead of snotty and erratic. But that's just me. I don't get "devastated" or any other overly dramatic adjective by things people say to me online, especially when I've asked them for an opinion. But that's just me. As to ones place in speaking on someone else's "passion", if they're asked to give an honest opinion then yes, it's their place to give it if they so choose. It's also the place of the asker to patiently accept the critique they so boldly asked for without going into histrionics. That's just a norm of society.
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/7/2008 8:01:17 PM
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And yes MusicianDad i have matured. Seriously if someone told you that the thing that matters to you the most, the love of your life, your everything, wasn't you passion wouldn't you be just a little ticked?? think about it. take this for example. i don't know if you do or not but what if you played the guitar. It was something you loved, absolutely cared about, couldn't go a day without putting your hands on it. and one day I told you that it wasn't your passion and you should just give up. You would be hurt and devastated. And really it wouldn't be my place to tell you that, because it would be your personal passion and not mine. I don't know how you feel or think.
Seriously, if I came on the internet and asked for "honest feedback" on the thing that matters to me most, I'd show a little maturity when I got feedback by being gracious instead of snotty and erratic. But that's just me. I don't get "devastated" or any other overly dramatic adjective by things people say to me online, especially when I've asked them for an opinion. But that's just me. As to ones place in speaking on someone else's "passion", if they're asked to give an honest opinion then yes, it's their place to give it if they so choose. It's also the place of the asker to patiently accept the critique they so boldly asked for without going into histrionics. That's just a norm of society.
The norm of society is also when someone says something that offends them they should stand up for themselfs, and defend their pride. we are obviously two very different people with very different point of views . so lets be Christians and not fight and Drop that subject!! :)
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/7/2008 8:20:22 PM
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The norm of society is also when someone says something that offends them they should stand up for themselfs, and defend their pride. we are obviously two very different people with very different point of views . so lets be Christians and not fight and Drop that subject!! :)
Maybe that kind of manipulation works well in your neck of the woods, but out in the real world, and even on the internet, it's not for you to define Christianity, and in particular my Christianity, in regards to what I or anyone chooses to talk about. Again, the major deva attitude is just over the top. You may feel feel free to drop the subject, if you so choose, however.
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/7/2008 8:32:51 PM
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i'm just saying God doesn't want us to be fighting over silly things like this. we should take Jesus in consideration and think what would he do. and in this situation he would turn the only cheek, which is what i'm going to do. and i'm dropping it on this last note.... we're all Christians and we believe and love the same God, we're all saved, well at least i hope, and he's our personal savior, shouldn't we all have things that we shouldn't do or talk about that's the same as everyone? and no it's not up to me to define Christianity, that's God and the Bibles purpose which is where i'm getting this from.
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/7/2008 9:03:26 PM
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Oh man, I don't know what I'm getting myself into entering this disagreement, but I'm just tryna be a peacemaker. Here is an attempt at an unbiased view. And I mean no offense by anything that I say.
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I think that MusicianDad has a good point. Maybe I'm just reading into the text, but from reading some of your previous answers in this thread, it does appear that some of your replies are rather-kinda a strong word, but for lack of a better one- snobbish. Maybe you did not mean to come across in this way. I can't see your heart like God does. But if you started this thread because you were looking for honest answers, the least you can do is respect the answers that people give. You mentioned defending your pride if someone offends you. I don't believe that defending one's pride is what its all about. If you don't agree with someone, but you asked for an honest opinion, there are other ways to acknowledge it other than quote:
yall people are just too ignorate to see that true music lies inside a person. and quote:
i was gracious! i said thank you and i mean it!!
you don't know me, you don't know how i feel so you have no obligation to say that i wasn't thankful. because i am. and quote:
Dude first of all, you have no right to tell me that singing is not my passion. If you asked for honest opinions, even if you don't agree with them, you should pray and really examine your heart and ask God if you need work in any of the areas presented by people. It's not like these people are secular hooligans. These are dedicated Christian followers that are giving you advice. Please try to take it seriously, and not as an attack on you.
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Dude, please bear with me. Friend to friend I'm saying this: COOL IT MAN! I understand that you aren't pleased with singergirl246's attitude. But it just doesn't seem to me like you need to put her down with phrases like quote:
All I can say is you've got the diva attutude down perfectly. and quote:
Again, the major deva attitude is just over the top. . I think that there are more loving ways to rebuke someone than that. And when you mentioned her "defining" Christianity, I honestly don't think that the way you took it is the way she meant it. I think she had a good point when she said quote:
so lets be Christians and not fight and Drop that subject!! :) . I know she wasn't saying that you aren't a Christian, and she certainly wasn't saying that that defines Christianity. She was just commenting that both her and you can settle your arguments in a more Christ-centered way than name-calling.
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/7/2008 9:14:42 PM
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Thank you jonfortean6!!
after reading what you said i took a long look at the things i've been saying, and yes they were wrong, and i fully apologize for everything i might have said to hurt anyone. i'm truly sorry!!
please forgive me everyone!!!
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/7/2008 9:22:02 PM
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jonfortean6, no offence taken. You're free to offer any advise you like, even if it's not asked for. As I said, I don't get wrapped around the axel over stuff on the internet. Having said that, I stand behind my previous statements.
singergirl246, I'm not fighting with anyone. I just stating my opinion. Just because people dont agree on something they are discussing doesn't mean they are fighting. Again, I find the attempt to define my viewpoint as some kind of a "fight" to be overtly manipulative.
Moral of the story: if you ask people for their honest opinion, don't be surprised when they honor your request.
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/8/2008 10:44:11 PM
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k. fine.
lets just get back to the real point of this thread!! lol :)
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/8/2008 10:51:34 PM
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k. fine.
lets just get back to the real point of this thread!! lol :)
Ummm....wasn't the real point of the thread to give you honest feedback? Seems like that's exactly what those who have responded have been doing. Did you have another "point" I'm missing here?
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/9/2008 8:39:03 AM
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singergirl246
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k. fine.
lets just get back to the real point of this thread!! lol :)
Ummm....wasn't the real point of the thread to give you honest feedback? Seems like that's exactly what those who have responded have been doing. Did you have another "point" I'm missing here?
Yeah that's what i'm saying the real point of it was to give honest feedback. But if you read the recent posts you can see we got side tracked, so i'm trying to get it back on the right subject!! :)
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/10/2008 3:42:48 PM
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MusicianDad
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Yeah that's what i'm saying the real point of it was to give honest feedback. But if you read the recent posts you can see we got side tracked, so i'm trying to get it back on the right subject!! :)
Personally, the only thing "off track" is this whole thread is the title and some of the responses to honest feedback. Maybe calling it the "I Really Like Music And Need Some Encouraging, Non-challenging Comments On My Singing" thread might have have been a little more honest to begin with?
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/10/2008 5:06:36 PM
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singergirl246
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can you just stop being so mean for once??
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RE: Honest Feedback!! - 11/10/2008 7:41:21 PM
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gtrdave
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can you just stop being so mean for once??
While remaining silent might have been the preferred route to take, Musician Dad was being honest, imho.
You asked for "HONEST FEEDBACK" and several people, myself included, offered honest feedback and constructive criticism that you proceeded to disagree with, dismiss and then argue with.
I pray that you'll let God search your heart in this matter and allow correction and maturity take it's course.
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